Showing posts with label Sampling Sour Beer. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Sampling Sour Beer. Show all posts

12.19.2011

Flanders Red finally on Cherries! Weird ass dream!

I had a really weird dream on Friday night.   In my dream, I went to my fermenter to take a look in at my first sour beer (still in carboy) and it was completely clear like water.  Not so much like water, but more like that clear Crystal Pepsi.   Also (in my dream) it had half a pumpkin and some other random vegetables floating in it that presumably soaked up all of the color.  Anywho...I realized upon awaking that Saturday morning that I should probably do something with that beer.

My first sour beer I ever brewed was an American Style Flanders Red Ale that I brewed 11 months ago.  It's been in secondary (an Ale Pale) for the last 6 months and has been getting more and more sour, at least as far as I could tell from sniffing the air lock.   After my weird ass dream,  I decided to take a taste and figure out how it's doing and where I want it to go from here.   The sample was a nice ruby, brown color.   Smell was nice and tart with caramel and cherries.   Taste was a little tart, malty, oaky,  not sour on the end but actually a little sweet.   I don't exactly know what the different acids taste like, but I don't get a lot of vinegar at all (which I believe is acetic acid).  The bottom line is, it tastes good!

I decided that now was the time to split it up. 
3 gallons to Rest -
I siphoned 3 gallons into a 3 gallon better bottle for longer term storage.  I'm hoping that this will get nice and acidic over the next year or longer.  If not, I'll end up bottling this portion as is.  It definitely tasted pretty damn good right now, but not as acidic as I'd prefer.
3 gallons on Tart Cherries -
The second 3 gallon portion was sitting in the Pale and I dumped 4 lbs of Tart cherries into that mix!   I tasted  a tiny bit of the cherry juice and it was definitely very tart.  I think this will complement the beer very well as I don't think it's going to be as tart and sour as I want on it's own!   The first pitch of Rosealare tends to not be extremely acid.   Should be ready for bottling in about 6 months.   June is the perfect time to be drinking a Flanders ale with Cherries!

11.08.2011

pLambic - Turbid Mash brewing!



“The lambic family are not everybody’s glass of beer, but no one with a keen interest in alcoholic drink would find them anything less than fascinating. In their “wildness” and unpredictability, these are exciting brews. At their best, they are the meeting point between beer and wine. At their worst, they offer a taste of history.”  quote by Michael Jackson (the beer hunter/writer)


I did it!  I finally brewed a Lambic style beer!  The majority of people have never tried nor even heard of a Lambic.  This is because the style is practically extinct.  There are a handful of breweries in the Lambic(Lembeek) region of Belgium which is the only region that you can actually brew a beer of this style and call it a Lambic.  It's kind of like how you can't call Sparkling wine made in California Champagne.  To be called Champagne it needs to be from that region of France.  This style is essentially being resurrected by homebrewers and and a handful of US micro-breweries who have patients enough to age beer for 2+ years and then eventually blend the aged beer with younger beer.

There are a lot of crazy weird practices for making a traditional Lambic beer that go against everything I've learned about brewing.
  1. Turbid mash (purpose is to create wort that normal brewing yeast has trouble fermenting on it's own so that that various Brett and Bacteria have something to chew on over the long fermentation)
  2. Hot sparge (over 170 degrees) to extract tannins(?)
  3. Super long boil
  4. Usage of old aged hops
  5. Traditionally left out to cool overnight in a cool ship so that it takes on wild yeast and bacteria.
  6. Fermented in an old wine barrel that harbors yeast, and bacteria
  7. Left in primary fermentation on the dead yeast for 2-3 years. (dead yeast is food for the funk!)
  8. Finished beer is typically blended with younger less sour versions or aged on various fruits.
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Recipe-

malt & fermentables

%
LB
OZ
Malt or Fermentable
ppg
°L
63%
5
0
Belgian Pils
37
2
38%
3
0
Wheat, Unmalted (Wheat Berries)
34
5

8
0




Original Gravity
1.040
Final Gravity
1.00?
Color
5° SRM
Mash Efficiency
68%
hops(three year old Celeia hops)
use
time
oz
variety
form
aa
boil
240 mins
2.5
Celeia
pellet
1.0

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Yeast-
I'm extremely excited about this yeast.   I acquired it from Princeton Homebrew Supply where the owner Joe Bair has hooked up with a bona fide yeast wranglers named Al Buck.  Here is Al Buck, talking about the yeast he cultures.
ECY01 BugFarm 5 - Lambic Blend
A large complex blend of cultures to emulate sour beers such as lambic style ales. Over time displays a citrus sourness and large barnyard profile. Contains yeast (S. cerevisiae and S. fermentati), several Brettanomyces strains, Lactobacillus and Pediococcus. The BugFarm blend changes every year and can be added at any stage of fermentation. Now producing Bugfarm 5 for 2011 (includes a newcomer – Brettanomyces nanus & naardenensis). Also, B. lambicus/Dekkera bruxellensis known to produce citric acid.

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Turbid Mash -
Here is the process I went through for doing the Turbid Mash.  I found that the most comprehensive information on traditional Lambic production was written by Jim Liddel here who based his turbid mash schedule on the way Cantillon still brews their fantastic beer today. I also referenced The Mad Fermentationist blog who put together a great step by step Turbid Mash brew day with pictures!

I simply followed these 8 steps and used about every pot and pan I had in my house! The good news is that I hit all of my temperatures within 1 or 2 degrees!  


1.) In kettle #1 add water at 144 F(62 C) to the crushed grain to achieve a temperature of 113 F (45 C) (about 2.4 quarts of water). Mix grain and water thoroughly and allow to rest at 113 F for 10 minutes. This amount of water is enough to just wet all the grain and flour. The mash needs to be stirred very well to make sure all the grain is wetted and no clumps of flour are present. Total time for this step is about 20 minutes, with the temperature rest included.

2.) Next, add 3.5-4.5 quarts boiling water (212 F)(100 C) to the mash to bring the temperature to 136 F (58 C). Do this over the course of 5 minutes making sure to mix thoroughly. Allow the mash to rest for 5 minutes at this temperature. Remove about a quart of liquid from the mash and add to kettle #2 and heat to 176 F (80 C). It will take about 3.5 quarts of water to raise the temperature to 136 F and you will end up with a very soupy mash with plenty of excess liquid. The liquid taken off should have the appearance of milk. Once heated it will clear up and large particles of hot break will form.

3.) Add 5-6 quarts water at 212 F (100 C) to the mash over the course of 10 minutes to bring the temperature to 150 F (65 C), again with constant mixing. It will take about 5 quarts of water to achieve this temperature. Allow the mash to rest for 30 minutes at 150 F (65 C). At this point the mash will be very soupy and the liquid much less milky in appearance.

4.) Next remove 4 quarts of liquid from kettle #1 and add to kettle #2. Continue to heat kettle #2 at 176 F (80 C). The liquid removed from kettle #1 will be very cloudy but not quite as milky as the liquid previously removed.

5.) Add 5 quarts of water 212 F (100 C)water to kettle #1 to bring the temperature to 162 F (72 C) and allow to remain at 162 F for 20 minutes. Again it will take about 5 quarts of water to reach the rest temperature. The mash should be very thin and soupy with a great deal of small particulate matter in the liquid portion of the mash.

6.) After the 20 minute rest the liquid in kettle #1 is run off and brought to a boil in a 3rd kettle (#3). Enough of the liquid in kettle #2, at 176 F, is added back to the mash in kettle #1 to bring the mash to a temperature of ~167 F (75 C). The mash is allowed to rest at 167 F for 20 minutes. Any liquid left in kettle #2 can be added to the previously collected run off in kettle #3. It will take most all the liquid in kettle #2 (~1.25 gallons) to raise the temp of the mash to 167 F.

7.) After 20 minutes the wort in kettle #1 is recirculated to clarify it and the sparging with 185 F (85 C) water is begun. Sparge until run off gravity has dropped to less than 1.008 and boil it with the previous run off from kettle #1. Boil the wort, now in kettle #3, until the volume is reduced to ~ 5 gallons.

8.) As the wort begins to boil it is hopped with approximately 4 ounces of aged hops as described in the Hops section. With all the water additions and sparging you will end up with about 9 gallons of wort. Total boiling time to reduce this volume to 5 gallons depends on your system.  It took me 4 hours to boil from 11 gallons to 5.5 gallons.
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****My advice, have a trusty thermometer and a bunch of pots full of boiling water and you should be fine! There were a couple of instances where I had to add an extra few quarts of boiling water to bring the temp up to where I wanted it!
****Also, double check the day before you brew to make sure you have enough Propane! 
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I plan on adding 1-1 1/2 oz o f French Oak cubes soon after the initial fermentation is done.   In about 8-12 months I'll sample the beer and most likely take a portion of it into another vessel and add 4 lbs of Wisconsin cranberries that I have in my freezer!  I'm hoping to have something similar to New Glarus - Cranbic at some point, but less sweet. 

I'll update this post as I see it progress over the next couple of years!  Should be drinking this one by 11/8/2013! 



1.29.12 - Sampled this with Kevin.  It smelled barnyardy.  Taste was just simply gross.   It tastes very similar to my Flanders Ale when it was young.   That Flanders is tasting amazing now at 1 year old.  

4.16.12 - Just read that New Glarus used 1200 lbs of cranberries for a 160 Barrel batch of Cranbic.  That's the equivalent of 4.13 lbs of cranberries per gallon of beer.  For a 5 gallon batch that's 0.25 lbs of Cranberries!

5.18.12 - Added 1/2 ounce Medium Toast French Cubes.

8.09.2011

Dank Funkhaus - Flanders Style American Wild Ale v.2


This is a continuation of my Flanders Project which I hope to brew a Flanders Style Ale every 6 months for 3 years and then start blending.  I have a Flanders Style Ale v. 1 that I brewed 7 months ago that I had left in Primary on a huge yeast cake.  This is more similar to how a Lambic is aged, as Flanders Red's are typically fermented in Primary for only a few weeks, and then transferred off the yeast cake.   See, the Bretta eats up the autolyzed(dead) yeast and I wanted to increase the amount of Bretta for this beer.   I'd created a nice Funk Factory for this to age on.......In this yeast cake was Wyeast 1056, Wyeast Roselare blend, dregs from various sour beers I've drank in the past 7 months(Jolly Pumpkin, Trinity, Russian River, Le Proef), a full bottle of each of my Saison Bretts containing Brett L., Brett C., and Wyeast 3711.   I'd say I have a dozen to two dozen different strains of Yeast and souring bacteria in this Yeast cake.   I had this in a Better Bottle and surprisingly no pellicle had formed at all over 7 months although the brett aroma is very strong.   The acidity is still not as high as I'd like it so I thought I'd add some fresh wort to kick things back up a notch.

With my second batch of Flanders Red Ale or Flanders Style American Wild Ale I brewed something very similar to Jamil's Flanders Red Ale recipe again.   I made a couple of small but notable changes.
1.  I brewed 6.5 gallons (so I could pour 1 gallon into my aging flanders to hopefully help the Pedio and Lacto work on something to acidify that beer in the next year or so.)
2.  I transferred v.1 to a plastic bucket (to let more oxygen in) and poured v.2 directly on top of the 7 month old yeast cake from v.1.  Now...I hope that 7 month old yeast cake with dozens of yeasts, and bacteria will ferment this bad boy out how I want.  I have no idea about the proportions of brewers yeast, bretta, pedio, and lacto, in that yeast cake, but I've read that reusing yeast cakes from sour beers produces an increasingly sour product.  
3. I used a small portion of unmalted wheat, did a cereal mash with that to hopefully create some extra food for the funk. (long chain sugars that aren't easily consumable by brewers yeast, but over a long period will get eatin 'tag team style' by Brett, Pedio, and Lacto.)
4. Mashed at 158 for 90 minutes for the same reason as using unmalted wheat.

Here's the recipe as brewed.

malt & fermentables

%
LB
OZ
Malt or Fermentable
ppg
°L
30%
5
0
Vienna Malt
36
3
30%
5
0
Belgian Pilsner Malt
34
2
18%
3
0
Munich Malt - 10L
35
10
9%
1
8
Light Dry Malt Extract
45
8
3%
0
8
Wheat, Unmalted (Wheat Berries)
34
5
3%
0
8
Aromatic Malt
36
26
3%
0
8
Caramunich III
34
56
3%
0
8
Special B Malt
30
180
Batch size: 6.5 gallons
Original Gravity
1.068 / 16.6° Plato
Final Gravity ?
Color
16° SRM / 31° EBC
(Light Brown to Medium Brown)
Mash Efficiency
73%

hops

use
time
oz
variety
form
aa
boil
60 mins
1.5
Celeia (aged 2 years)
pellet
1.4
boil
60 mins
1.0
Goldings, East Ken
pellet
5.0
Bitterness
15 IBU

Alcohol
7.5-8.5% ABV


Rant: I've been slowly trying to figure out how to make a proper sour ale....it takes time and I can understand why many brewers don't even want to deal with it.   I absolutely can understand why a professional brewer wouldn't want to deal with aging beer for months to years.   You see, brewing sour beers takes anywhere form 1-3 years.   Most beers take 2-4 weeks before you can bottle them.  It's quite the difference.   Fermentation space is a huge consideration for professional brewers and most try to push fermentation as fast as possible by pitching huge amounts of healthy yeast and utilizing constant and accurate temperature control fermentation.    Keeping the yeast happy helps them eat sugars. I'm lucky to have a bunch of extra Carboy's and Buckets and can't wait to keep brewing Flanders Red's every 6 months to eventually blend and drink.   My Saison Bretts although not sour beers, are fantastic!  Let me know if you'd like me to send you a bottle as I've got a ton!
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